December 7, 2024

BREAKING NEWS: Synthetic AMC Shares Moved To Brazil Stock Exchange

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  1. Hi Frank, Have you seen Matt Kohr’s video about this he made a fee weeks ago? He explains he BDR system as essentially a clone of the US float which is a common practise.

    Could you watch and share your thoughts on it.

    Thanks

    https://youtu.be/QKJCNKJbBlE

    1. Hey William! Yeah I thought this too brother until Fidelity International Team confirmed that the shares in that Brazil’s stock exchange are a completely separate entity than those in U.S. It is POSSIBLE that it could have been a mistake on Fidelity’s team member and perhaps it is indeed just a clone representation of the market here. We would need a second person to confirm to be certain.

  2. Does this lessen the magnitude of the squeeze now, thus lowering the floor? I know it will still happen, but will it now be a lot less than before they pulled this stunt or no?

    1. It’s possible this is only a small fraction of what really could be out there too. I am bullish on AMC and I believe this news could also potentially be a catalyst. #APESNOTLEAVING

  3. So, what’s a response to who? Do all Apes dump Citi credit cards? There are a ton of credit card options, so easy action if everyone does it. Maybe the banks think twice about supporting this kind of crap.

  4. No entiendo qué significa, la traducción al castellano indica que es perjudicial para los APES para todos los inversionistas minoristas, cuidado con las traducciones porque puede llevar a engaño

    1. Hi Celso, all this means is we exposed synthetics on the grand scheme of things. Other than that, short still have to cover the real short shares + whatever synthetics are still floating around

    1. Squeeze is still very on, short interest is extremely high and shorts have not covered. This just means we were right about their overleveraged positions. There’s still a TON of uncounted synthetics out there that still have to be covered.

      1. So the people in Brazil buying this stock are buying synthetic shares. Therefore making them real and diluting the float. Price is going down then or maybe they’re using the money to cover the naked shorts slowly. Don’t think it’s a good idea to mess around with the Brazilians money.

        1. Are we sure that the US custodian is actually buying the shares to hold in the custody account. The only time it would matter to them is if a Brazilian BDR owner wanted to vote the shares. Or if there was a dividend (which there isn’t). Otherwise there are no events requiring the Custodian to have the shares. Can you think of any reason why 6 BDRs could be bought and sold without a corresponding custodian share and without Citi being liable for the underlying value?

          I went to vote my shares in an Irish stock managed by Citi 2 years ago where I owned ADRs (American Depository Receipts). It took 3 weeks to get permission and I received a legal proxy form with 3 (yes 3) wet signatures on it by pdf in an email. This also has the benefit that BdR purchases don’t affect the share price if Citi don’t buy a corresponding share (or already own it). This would be beneficial for

          I suspect matching BDRs to ADSs is something that the banks rarely do and for very few shareholders (because most retail don’t bother to vote or think they can’t). So they can take Money for the BDRs and optionally buy the shares, being a closed book I think we may never know.

          It feels illegal because it should be. How can 2x the float be allowed? Without any checks and balances the way to play this could be to buy b2mc34 and request a proxy vote for the next AGM.

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